# Add my own POI (Waypoints)

**URL:** <https://forum.kurviger.com/t/add-my-own-poi-waypoints/321>\
**Category:** App\
**Created:** [July 27, 2018, 11:27pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/add-my-own-poi-waypoints/321 "2018-07-27T23:27:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![TroyWolf](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/troywolf/32/134_2.png) [@TroyWolf](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/TroyWolf)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 11:27pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/add-my-own-poi-waypoints/321/1 "2018-07-27T23:27:08Z")

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New Kurviger user here, but not new to GPX and creating tracks. I want to be able to add my own custom POI/waypoints and have them become part of the exported GPX file. I’m talking about points of interest in an area of my track that I want to have noted on the map while I’m navigating. Things like “Waterfall7”, “CreekCrossing2”, “Cliff Overlook”, “MissileSilo”. These may be actually on my track, but more often they are not–just interesting things in the area. Although I want to call these “POI”, the systems I’ve used in the past create these as waypoints which seem to be more commonly supported. I don’t care, I just want a context-specific icon or at a minimum, a generic flag, and a point name to indicate something I might care about along the way.

The fact Kurviger does not let me do this (or that isn’t a fact, and I’ll be pleasantly surprised!), I have to assume there is a standard way folks do this outside of Kurviger. My experience is the old Garmin Mapsource program followed by their Basecamp application. For the last 2 years, I’ve been using [RideWithGps.com](http://RideWithGps.com) to create my tracks. All of those tools allow me to create custom waypoints/POI.

Kurviger lets me create waypoints, but they are true waypoints–actually points IN the track.

Hopefully my desire here is clear and a relatively common one.

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**Author:** ![boldtrn](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/boldtrn/32/360_2.png) [@boldtrn](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/boldtrn)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 6:08am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/add-my-own-poi-waypoints/321/2 "2018-07-28T06:08:31Z")

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Thanks for the request.

Currently POIs are only available as overlays, these can come from GPX files or they can be stored as bookmarks in the app.

Currently there is no way to export a route with POIs on the side. I understand that this is important to many people and this is something we are thinking about supporting in the future.

What do others think about this?

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**Author:** ![devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/devemux86/32/6239_2.png) [@devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/devemux86)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 8:21am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/add-my-own-poi-waypoints/321/3 "2018-07-28T08:21:51Z")

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Is this relevant to [Website: Waypoint names](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/names-and-even-colours-for-waypoints/216)?

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**Author:** ![TroyWolf](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/troywolf/32/134_2.png) [@TroyWolf](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/TroyWolf)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2018, 11:59pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/add-my-own-poi-waypoints/321/4 "2018-07-29T23:59:47Z")

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I would say “yes” related. However, technically, POI are not the same animal as Waypoints, but…as I said in my original post, I don’t really care if it’s a POI or Waypoint as long as I can create, name, and include in my GPX. Custom colors, or better yet, custom icons like many apps support, would be even better.

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**Author:** ![SchlesiM](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/schlesim/32/1080_2.png) [@SchlesiM](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/SchlesiM)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 5:24am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/add-my-own-poi-waypoints/321/5 "2018-07-30T05:24:59Z")

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> [@boldtrn](#):
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> What do others think about this?

I think in most of the longer tours there are some waypoints worth to be named or made visible in a special way. So yes: I also would appreciate POI support (or an alternative solution to be able to identify those waypoints).

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**Author:** ![linux-user](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/linux-user/32/56_2.png) [@linux-user](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/linux-user)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 6:47am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/add-my-own-poi-waypoints/321/6 "2018-07-30T06:47:56Z")

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> [@TroyWolf](#):
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> Custom colors, or better yet, custom icons like many apps support, would be even better.

I would appreciate custom _colors_ as well. Custom _icons_ (e.g. Flags) are fancy but IMHO don’t add any extra functionality. Well I would be happy with either.

And of course it should be possible to give [Names (and even colours) for waypoints](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/names-and-even-colours-for-waypoints/216).  
This does not mean that the current numbering scheme should be replaced. The program could treat custom names as a comment and show it to the user.  
If you use a custom POI as a waypoint then the waypoint would inherit the name of that POI

Manfred

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**Author:** ![devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/devemux86/32/6239_2.png) [@devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/devemux86)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 7:11am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/add-my-own-poi-waypoints/321/7 "2018-07-30T07:11:23Z")

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Technically add own POI is like [Bookmarking your Favorite Spots and use them for Routing](https://docs.kurviger.de/app/bookmarks) which is already available, so can import POI from external sources in GPX format.

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**Author:** ![boldtrn](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/boldtrn/32/360_2.png) [@boldtrn](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/boldtrn)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 8:19am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/add-my-own-poi-waypoints/321/8 "2018-07-30T08:19:16Z")

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> [@devemux86](#):
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> Technically add own POI is like [Bookmarking your Favorite Spots and use them for Routing](https://docs.kurviger.de/app/bookmarks) which is already available, so can import POI from external sources in GPX format.

Yes, this works perfectly well for Kurviger, I think the issue is when you want to plan with Kurviger but use an external navigation device. Is this correct @TroyWolf? So you use Kurviger for planning but for example a Garmin for navigation?

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**Author:** ![TroyWolf](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/troywolf/32/134_2.png) [@TroyWolf](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/TroyWolf)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 12:18pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/add-my-own-poi-waypoints/321/9 "2018-07-30T12:18:06Z")

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First, thanks for the response and consideration! ☕

@devemux86, THANK YOU for the the link to [Bookmarks documentation](https://docs.kurviger.de/app/bookmarks). I read through that, and yes, it seems that “bookmarks” are what I’m looking for. However…

Per the doc, I see I can **create** bookmarks in the Kurviger app, **export** them, and **use them in the website** so they are handy when creating routes in the website:

> It is easy to export your bookmarks as GPX file. This allows you to use your bookmarks in the Kurviger Website, in external systems or to back them up. Go to the Menu, Bookmarks, Export.

The documentation does not explain in detail, but I assume the import process into the [kurviger.de](http://kurviger.de) browser app is the normal “import” feature. Since I’ve never seen anything about “bookmarks” in the website, I assume they import as “waypoints”. I’ll have to install the app and try this.

This sounds _almost_ perfect. I want to use my computer to create these points–not an app using touch on a tiny phone screen. (Guess I could buy a large Android tablet and connect a bluetooth mouse.) What I really want is to be able to create and manage these “bookmarks” (custom POI) in the same application I use to create my routes. ([Kurviger.de](http://Kurviger.de) browser app in this case)

@boldtrn, yes. My current process is to use OsmAnd on a rugged Android phone that I use as a dedicated GPS device on my motorcycle. Therefore, I want a way to create my routes and “bookmarks”, export them to GPX, then import into whatever GPX-compatible navigation system I choose–currently that is OsmAnd for me. It could be Garmin’s Basecamp for others who then want to use Basecamp’s feature to load the data into their GPS device.

The Bookmarks documentation also mentions that we can import Bookmarks into the Kurviger app, but does not go into detail about what one might use to create Bookmarks for import.

_I should probably install the Kurviger app to see what I’m missing there, but had planned to use Kurviger for route GPX creation and OsmAnd for on-device navigation._

Is a “bookmark” an official entity in the GPX specification just like a `<wpt>` or `<trkpt>`? Seems I’ve got **more to learn**!

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**Author:** ![boldtrn](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/boldtrn/32/360_2.png) [@boldtrn](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/boldtrn)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 1:56pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/add-my-own-poi-waypoints/321/10 "2018-07-30T13:56:45Z")

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> [@TroyWolf](#):
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> I should probably install the Kurviger app to see what I’m missing there, but had planned to use Kurviger for route GPX creation and OsmAnd for on-device navigation.

Yes, I you probably should 😉

> [@TroyWolf](#):
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> Is a “bookmark” an official entity in the GPX specification just like a `<wpt>` or `<trkpt>` ? Seems I’ve got **more to learn**!

Yes, we simply use GPX wpts. However routes and bookmarks are two different things.

The browser version doesn’t support the creation of bookmarks right now. Planning trips with the Kurviger App is pretty convenient, I plan most of my rides on the smartphone and just go for the ride. So this could work for you as well, who knows 🙂.

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**Author:** ![SchlesiM](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/schlesim/32/1080_2.png) [@SchlesiM](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/SchlesiM)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/add-my-own-poi-waypoints/321/11 "2018-07-30T15:40:36Z")

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> [@linux-user](#):
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> And of course it should be possible to give [Names (and even colours) for waypoints](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/names-and-even-colours-for-waypoints/216).  
> This does not mean that the current numbering scheme should be replaced. The program could treat custom names as a comment and show it to the user.  
> If you use a custom POI as a waypoint then the waypoint would inherit the name of that POI

I think one of the reasons, why custom colours and names are somehow a challenge for Kurviger is the way, routes are shared until now: it’s just a shared link with all waypoint coordinates as params. No real “save format” to store additional infos, so those Infos would probably only possible if exporting as .kurviger or GPX files.

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**Author:** ![boldtrn](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/boldtrn/32/360_2.png) [@boldtrn](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/boldtrn)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 10:01am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/add-my-own-poi-waypoints/321/12 "2018-07-31T10:01:08Z")

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> [@SchlesiM](#):
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> I think one of the reasons, why custom colours and names are somehow a challenge for Kurviger is the way, routes are shared until now: it’s just a shared link with all waypoint coordinates as params.

This is correct that’s one of the challenges. There are ways to do this in a URL as well, but it’s a bit more tricky 🙂.

Also GPX has no real standard for colors or symbols. AFAIK, these are just random text that might be understood by some navis and might not be understood by other navis.

The [GPX Spec](https://www.topografix.com/gpx/1/1/#type_wptType) states:

> Text of GPS symbol name. For interchange with other programs, use the exact spelling of the symbol as displayed on the GPS. If the GPS abbreviates words, spell them out.

AFAIK, there is no standard way to specify the color in GPX.

[Also related to this thread in an external forum](https://forums.geocaching.com/GC/index.php?/topic/144374-list-of-gpsr-waypoint-icons-and-numbers/).

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**Author:** ![tam](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/tam/32/141_2.png) [@tam](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/tam)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 11:57am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/add-my-own-poi-waypoints/321/13 "2018-08-05T11:57:43Z")

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This is a highly awaited feature for me, too. Giving names to the points as well.

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**Author:** ![Uli\_LH](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/uli_lh/32/562_2.png) [@Uli\_LH](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/Uli_LH)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 4:51pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/add-my-own-poi-waypoints/321/14 "2018-08-05T16:51:56Z")

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> [@tam](#):
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> Giving names to the points as well.

Same to me.

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**Author:** ![Dieter\_Liessmann](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/dieter_liessmann/32/397_2.png) [@Dieter\_Liessmann](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/Dieter_Liessmann)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 1:57pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/add-my-own-poi-waypoints/321/15 "2018-10-22T13:57:59Z")

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For the website it will be a very higghly awaited feature to manage your own pois, because the only other software that supports this (bascamp) is ending development.  
I doing all my planings on pc on a very huge screen and looking at the same time to maps or something.

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**Author:** ![vincent\_lehmann](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/vincent_lehmann/32/918_2.png) [@vincent\_lehmann](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/vincent_lehmann)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 10:11am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/add-my-own-poi-waypoints/321/16 "2019-05-11T10:11:15Z")

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would love to add my personal poi and name them like “restaurant goodfood”, “hotel goodsleep”, “siteseeing1\_aarschlucht” etc…

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**Author:** ![SchlesiM](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/schlesim/32/1080_2.png) [@SchlesiM](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/SchlesiM)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/add-my-own-poi-waypoints/321/17 "2019-05-11T20:55:46Z")

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> [@boldtrn](#):
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> Also GPX has no real standard for colors or symbols. AFAIK, these are just random text that might be understood by some navis and might not be understood by other navis.
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> The [GPX Spec](https://www.topografix.com/gpx/1/1/#type_wptType) states:

This is how BaseCamp exports GPX data for the rtept and wpt tags:

 ![BaseCamp_Export_rte](https://forum.kurviger.com/uploads/default/original/1X/e4096f403a4ccbfe17c69ee95b2a198cd67cf3df.jpeg)

 ![BaseCamp_Export_wpt](https://forum.kurviger.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9fb57dd6940b4d40a458cef997b9d7d1eff6621e.jpeg)

And this is how it looks like after importing it into MyRoute-app and exporting it as GPX again:

 ![MyRouteApp_Export_rtept](https://forum.kurviger.com/uploads/default/original/1X/daf9e173cad8eb1e538401ac79655c83ad6f5889.jpeg)

It is obvious that non-standard-infos (like “smybol”) are lost (they’re only interpreted in BaseCamp or Garmin devices). But the “name” tag seems to be the right one for saving a waypoints name, so this info will be preserved even if exported/imported to other systems and devices.

Here are are the corresponding tags after being imported from BaseCamp’s GPX-file into Kurviger website and exported as GPX again:

![KurvigerExport_BGCableturnThannh](https://forum.kurviger.com/uploads/default/optimized/1X/e71288b6f223b37a07bcc552317ebfa4e13baaee_2_690x46.jpeg)

The content of the “name” tag is automatically replaced by a numbered identifier for the waypoint (“Wegpunkt 6”). I think the orginal content (“Lokal: Cableturn Thannhausen”) should be preserverd here.

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**Author:** ![devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/devemux86/32/6239_2.png) [@devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/devemux86)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 5:17am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/add-my-own-poi-waypoints/321/18 "2019-05-12T05:17:52Z")

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> [@SchlesiM](#):
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> The content of the “name” tag is automatically replaced by a numbered identifier for the waypoint (“Wegpunkt 6”). I think the orginal content (“Lokal: Cableturn Thannhausen”) should be preserverd here.

More regular [GPX tags](https://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1/) (like name) will be introduced, when the platform _process_ that information and provides it also for user input, essentially with:

> [@Website: Waypoint names](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/names-and-even-colours-for-waypoints/216):
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> In my opinion it would really be a great improvement to be able to change the names of the waypoints in my route. It’s OK to have all those “via point xx” by default, but certain waypoint on a route often have a special significance. For example because there’s a restaurant with a planned stop, a parking lot to meet other buddies or a certain location to be visited. It’s sometimes quite confusing to have a good overview over your route without the possibily to have custom names for your waypoin…
