# Confused route creation (Morocco) **URL:** \ **Category:** OSM\ **Tags:** mapping-error\ **Created:** [September 4, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/confused-route-creation-morocco/24307 "2025-09-04T15:17:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ThinkBike](https://forum.kurviger.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@ThinkBike](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/ThinkBike)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/confused-route-creation-morocco/24307/1 "2025-09-04T15:17:50Z")
Can I ask why the application behaves so confusedly and tries to avoid the usual nothing special road at all costs. And sometimes the application takes you offroad even though you have set the fastest route in the application. ![IMG_1276](https://forum.kurviger.com/uploads/default/original/3X/9/1/91e0673c8068937a72341661810ea14cab264558.jpeg) ![IMG_1277](https://forum.kurviger.com/uploads/default/original/3X/3/5/35bd0182ab450d7ad58d92e21773e8e92c9ef83d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![t00thl355](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/t00thl355/32/27045_2.png) [@t00thl355](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/t00thl355)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 5:08pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/confused-route-creation-morocco/24307/2 "2025-09-04T17:08:53Z")
> [@ThinkBike](#): > > Can I ask why the application behaves so confusedly and tries to avoid the usual nothing special road at all costs. Usually because there is an inconsistency in OSM data. It would be helpful to post the links to your routes together with screenshots, if you wish someone to have a look at it. I have tried to recreate the first screenshot, but cannot find the error in OSM. > **[Fnideq - M'Diq](https://kurviger.com/en/plan?point=35.849155%2C-5.352586&padr.0=%2093102%20Fnideq%20Tangier-T%C3%A9touan-Al%20Hoceima%20Morocco&point=35.769636%2C-5.349827&shaping.1=true&padr.1=%20M%27Diq%20Tangier-T%C3%A9touan-Al%20Hoceima%20Morocco&point=35.765005%2C-5.348625&shaping.2=true&padr.2=%20M%27Diq%20Tangier-T%C3%A9touan-Al%20Hoceima%20Morocco&point=35.742437%2C-5.344087&shaping.3=true&padr.3=%20M%27Diq%20Tangier-T%C3%A9touan-Al%20Hoceima%20Morocco&point=35.739338%2C-5.343036&shaping.4=true&point=35.732699%2C-5.34144&shaping.5=true&padr.5=%2093200%20M%27Diq%20Tangier-T%C3%A9touan-Al%20Hoceima%20Morocco&point=35.710609%2C-5.335466&weighting=curvaturefastest&details=route_information&details=max_speed&details=street_name)** > > Distance 29.51km | Duration 48min | Elevation ↗ 435m ↘ 441m @linux-user or anyone - help? ---
**Author:** ![Toffel](https://forum.kurviger.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/9dc877/32.png) [@Toffel](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/Toffel)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 5:20pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/confused-route-creation-morocco/24307/3 "2025-09-04T17:20:39Z")
> [@t00thl355](#): > > anyone I guess for the first issue (SP 2) is that only bicycles may use it. Perhaps compare pieces before and after. ![Screenshot_20250904_191821](https://forum.kurviger.com/uploads/default/original/3X/a/4/a45ab6f1a162f53d4db9f2d91ce7e813e4960f5b.jpeg) Second - same (SP 5). ---
**Author:** ![t00thl355](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/t00thl355/32/27045_2.png) [@t00thl355](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/t00thl355)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 5:24pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/confused-route-creation-morocco/24307/4 "2025-09-04T17:24:55Z")
> [@Toffel](#): > > I guess for the first issue (SP 2) is that only bicycles may use it. This is what I thought. But why doesn’t it exit this road on the previous roundabout. also before it is tagged as bicycles only. If I move the shaping points to the opposite direction and reverse the route, also strange things happen: > **[M'Diq - Fnideq](https://kurviger.com/en/plan?point=35.710677%2C-5.33541&point=35.732723%2C-5.341372&shaping.1=true&point=35.739581%2C-5.343025&shaping.2=true&point=35.74262%2C-5.344001&shaping.3=true&point=35.765127%2C-5.348561&shaping.4=true&point=35.769767%2C-5.349752&shaping.5=true&point=35.849155%2C-5.352586&padr.6=%2093102%20Fnideq%20Tangier-T%C3%A9touan-Al%20Hoceima%20Morocco&weighting=curvaturefastest&details=route_information&details=max_speed&details=street_name)** > > Distance 52.69km | Duration 1h 12min | Elevation ↗ 889m ↘ 882m Should we just explicitly add access for motor vehicles and see what happens? ---
**Author:** ![Toffel](https://forum.kurviger.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/9dc877/32.png) [@Toffel](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/Toffel)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 6:05pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/confused-route-creation-morocco/24307/5 "2025-09-04T18:05:42Z")
> [@t00thl355](#): > > This is what I thought. But why doesn’t it exit this road on the previous roundabout. also before it is tagged as bicycles only. Checked on PC now. I am not 100% sure. I guess at a previous roundabout the bicycle is not set. The route follows this piece of the roundabout. As roundabout is implicit oneway it must use the next road. Then the route is trapped in oneways and must go ahead. At SP 5 finally a parking lot can be used (or the track before) and this is used then, until trapped again in oneways. > [@t00thl355](#): > > Should we just explicitly add access for motor vehicles and see what happens? I think the bicyle = yes is not necessary. I guess cycleway=track is expressing this? Found nothing in OSM Wiki saying that additional access tag is required. motor\_vehicle = yes should also work. @linux-user must decide. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![linux-user](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/linux-user/32/56_2.png) [@linux-user](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/linux-user)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 6:20pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/confused-route-creation-morocco/24307/6 "2025-09-04T18:20:13Z")
I don’t think that it is related to the access tags. Neither `cycleway=track` nor `bicycle=yes` should hurt. I don’t think that `motor_vehicle=yes` would help either. This route works up to the end - but not further 🤔 There must be something else that is blocking the route. > **[Fnideq - M'Diq](https://kurviger.com/en/plan?point=35.837682%2C-5.355792&point=35.766746%2C-5.348926&weighting=curvaturefastest&details=route_information&details=max_speed&details=street_name)** > > Distance 8.31km | Duration 9min | Elevation ↗ 89m ↘ 108m And here from start onwards it is working again. > **[M'Diq](https://kurviger.com/en/plan?point=35.760535%2C-5.348539&point=35.748706%2C-5.346823&weighting=curvaturefastest&details=route_information&details=max_speed&details=street_name)** > > Distance 1.41km | Duration 2min | Elevation ↗ 17m ↘ 17m And here at the end it is blocked again > **[M'Diq - Sania Plage, M'Diq](https://kurviger.com/en/plan?point=35.760535%2C-5.348539&point=35.733694%2C-5.341689&weighting=curvaturefastest&details=route_information&details=max_speed&details=street_name)** > > Distance 3.16km | Duration 3min | Elevation ↗ 30m ↘ 40m ---
**Author:** ![rumbrummer](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/rumbrummer/32/113_2.png) [@rumbrummer](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/rumbrummer)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 6:52pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/confused-route-creation-morocco/24307/7 "2025-09-04T18:52:20Z")
This roundabout is completely tagged with motorcycle=no: > **[Way: ‪RN16‬ (‪881434361‬)](https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/881434361)** > > OpenStreetMap is a map of the world, created by people like you and free to use under an open license. And also this road: > **[Way: ‪RN16‬ (‪142429538‬)](https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/142429538)** > > OpenStreetMap is a map of the world, created by people like you and free to use under an open license. I have some doubts, if that is right - but I am not sure … Edit: I put 2 notes on OSM: > **[Note: 4946883](https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4946883)** > > OpenStreetMap is a map of the world, created by people like you and free to use under an open license. > **[Note: 4946885](https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4946885)** > > OpenStreetMap is a map of the world, created by people like you and free to use under an open license. ---
**Author:** ![linux-user](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/linux-user/32/56_2.png) [@linux-user](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/linux-user)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 7:08pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/confused-route-creation-morocco/24307/8 "2025-09-04T19:08:02Z")
No signs that forbid motorcycles can be seen on Mapillary. 😅 Mapillary can legally be used as a source for OpenStreetMap. > **[Mapillary](https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=35.721979394494&lng=-5.3393480993783&z=17&pKey=1080707662423389&focus=photo)** > > Street-level imagery, powered by collaboration and computer vision. ---
**Author:** ![t00thl355](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/t00thl355/32/27045_2.png) [@t00thl355](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/t00thl355)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 7:16pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/confused-route-creation-morocco/24307/9 "2025-09-04T19:16:00Z")
I know Google can’t be used, but there is literally a motorcycle in this very roundabout on Street-View. 😂[https://maps.app.goo.gl/aGpo4roZRSY58tQN8?g\_st=ac](https://maps.app.goo.gl/aGpo4roZRSY58tQN8?g_st=ac) I checked the OSM version history ([Way: ‪N13;N16‬ (‪30130644‬) | OpenStreetMap](https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/30130644/history/18)) and the guy ([Whimsical Otter | OpenStreetMap](https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Whimsical%20Otter)) who put the the “motorcycle=no” tag was apparently using another tool (Kaart) for editing, so maybe he messed it up with a bulk edit. I ciuld imagine that the tag was intended for the bicycle track, but it was not done correctly. ---
**Author:** ![Toffel](https://forum.kurviger.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/9dc877/32.png) [@Toffel](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/Toffel)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 7:28pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/confused-route-creation-morocco/24307/10 "2025-09-04T19:28:39Z")
> [@rumbrummer](#): > > This roundabout is completely tagged with motorcycle=no: Nach dem Offensichtlichen nicht gesucht .. Danke! Zumindest beim Kreisverkehr .. ich komme aus einer Einbahnstrasse, welche noch benutzbar ist - und dann nicht durch den Kreisverkehr fahren zu dürfen, erscheint mir falsch bis unmöglich. ---
**Author:** ![t00thl355](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/t00thl355/32/27045_2.png) [@t00thl355](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/t00thl355)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 8:04pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/confused-route-creation-morocco/24307/11 "2025-09-04T20:04:32Z")
I’ve ran OT and those apper to be isolated entries. We could try contacting the author, but if there is no response, we could just remove them. > **[overpass turbo](https://overpass-turbo.eu/?Q=%2F*%0AThis%20query%20looks%20for%20nodes%2C%20ways%20and%20relations%20%0Awith%20the%20given%20key%2Fvalue%20combination.%0AChoose%20your%20region%20and%20hit%20the%20Run%20button%20above%21%0A*%2F%0A%5Bout%3Ajson%5D%5Btimeout%3A25%5D%3B%0A%2F%2F%20gather%20results%0Anwr%5B%22motorcycle%22%3D%22no%22%5D%28%7B%7Bbbox%7D%7D%29%3B%0A%2F%2F%20print%20results%0Aout%20geom%3B&C=35.68449%3B-5.268631%3B12)** > > A web based data mining tool for OpenStreetMap which runs any kind of Overpass API query and shows the results on an interactive map. ---
**Author:** ![ThinkBike](https://forum.kurviger.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@ThinkBike](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/ThinkBike)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 8:24pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/confused-route-creation-morocco/24307/12 "2025-09-04T20:24:28Z")
> **[4a Day, Ceuta -\_ Aouchtame Bni Saïd (72km)](https://kurviger.com/en/plan?point=35.896232%2C-5.326361&point=35.846074%2C-5.354271&shaping.1=true&point=35.8006%2C-5.356751&shaping.2=true&point=35.664344%2C-5.318037&shaping.3=true&point=35.598079%2C-5.339511&shaping.4=true&point=35.579368%2C-5.3313&shaping.5=true&point=35.564713%2C-5.354076&shaping.6=true&point=35.579605%2C-5.281488&shaping.7=true&point=35.547396%2C-5.239737&shaping.8=true&point=35.54905%2C-5.225995&shaping.9=true&point=35.526019%2C-5.229829&shaping.10=true&point=35.537575%2C-5.213938&shaping.11=true&point=35.531545%2C-5.177805&shaping.12=true&point=35.507722%2C-5.162317&details=route_information&details=max_speed&details=street_name&document_title=4a%20Day%2C%20Ceuta%20-_%20Aouchtame%20Bni%20Sa%C3%AFd%20%2872km%29&route_collection_id=XtNiVXkTEKsbsjWW0Ozv&route_id=W4IoJQMI2kAOk8GVMPj0)** > > Distance 74.62km | Duration 2h 2min | Elevation ↗ 1440m ↘ 1414m ---
**Author:** ![Toffel](https://forum.kurviger.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/9dc877/32.png) [@Toffel](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/Toffel)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 6:20am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/confused-route-creation-morocco/24307/13 "2025-09-05T06:20:00Z")
> [@ThinkBike](#): > > Can I ask why the application behaves so confusedly and tries to avoid the usual nothing special road at all costs. And sometimes the application takes you offroad even though you have set the fastest route in the application. As above it is possibly caused by a data issue in the OpenStreetMap data. You can connect two points with a beeline. Usually used for offroad sections. ![Screenshot_20250905_081637](https://forum.kurviger.com/uploads/default/original/3X/2/2/220b15ab2f128dc9b980fb01d31af37c32ac9a9e.png) ---
**Author:** ![rumbrummer](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/rumbrummer/32/113_2.png) [@rumbrummer](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/rumbrummer)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 8:17am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/confused-route-creation-morocco/24307/14 "2025-12-11T08:17:37Z")
An other mapper solved my notes in OSM, but the route still has a suspicious deviation, because there was a further isolated roundabout with implausible tagging “motorcycle=no”: ![image](https://forum.kurviger.com/uploads/default/original/3X/a/c/ac0a9ff8e81ef2839007964fc48f66ac8a9a8a10.jpeg) I removed that tags, I think in a few days the route of @ThinkBike will work properly …