# Export 3rd party (online) formats (Pro) **URL:** \ **Category:** App\ **Created:** [December 1, 2020, 8:55am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/export-3rd-party-online-formats-pro/4587 "2020-12-01T08:55:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/devemux86/32/6239_2.png) [@devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/devemux86)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 8:55am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/export-3rd-party-online-formats-pro/4587/1 "2020-12-01T08:55:51Z")
Focus on app’s main purpose: Kurviger routing + navigation. Export of kurviger and gpx should be done offline in the app. Support of 3rd party devices can be handled by the website. (it is a conflict of interest within the application) ---
**Author:** ![rumbrummer](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/rumbrummer/32/113_2.png) [@rumbrummer](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/rumbrummer)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 10:19am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/export-3rd-party-online-formats-pro/4587/2 "2020-12-01T10:19:45Z")
I would like to keep GPX export (online) in the app. Reason: That export inserts additional route points placed away from turn points in an intelligent way. Using kurviger app on android tablet / mobile phone to plan routes for use on many navigation devices ( BMW, Garmin, TomTom …) is improved a lot by that. Exporting Kurviger file, opening it in Kurviger Web via mobile browser and exporting it as GPX is much less comfortable. ---
**Author:** ![devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/devemux86/32/6239_2.png) [@devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/devemux86)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 10:25am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/export-3rd-party-online-formats-pro/4587/3 "2020-12-01T10:25:40Z")
The application should not be considered a substitute for all website functions on the mobile. > [@rumbrummer](#): > > I would like to keep GPX export (online) in the app. Reason: That export inserts additional route points placed away from turn points in an intelligent way. Exports in app should be offline. I cannot negotiate that, it’s absurd to need internet to export a route! I don’t know how website works and its algorithm, if it’s available I can include it in offline GPX export. ---
**Author:** ![zaphod\_42](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/zaphod_42/32/499_2.png) [@zaphod\_42](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/zaphod_42)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 1:51pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/export-3rd-party-online-formats-pro/4587/4 "2020-12-01T13:51:10Z")
> [@devemux86](#): > > I don’t know how website works and its algorithm, if it’s available I can **include it in offline GPX export.** I’d like that! Especially on necessary re-assemblies of routes on the road (far away from my PC) would it be very useful. Same output as at home … ---
**Author:** ![rumbrummer](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/rumbrummer/32/113_2.png) [@rumbrummer](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/rumbrummer)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 2:20am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/export-3rd-party-online-formats-pro/4587/5 "2020-12-02T02:20:24Z")
> [@devemux86](#): > > it’s crazy to need internet to export a route! I do not fully agree, because I need internet anyway to calculate the route with Kurviger algorithm (because that is done on server). And that function (GPX export online) is already there → no effort to implement… I appreciate thinking about shrinking the app to keep it less complex, but I regret if this leads to removal of very useful features already implemented - and if a select (format of export) has 2 or 16 options does not increase complexity of user interface / does not make it more difficult to understand. > [@devemux86](#): > > I don’t know how website works and its algorithm, if it’s available I can include it in offline GPX export. I would appreciate that, of course, but I wonder: Do you plan to implement the Kurviger routing algorithm also offline? ---
**Author:** ![devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/devemux86/32/6239_2.png) [@devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/devemux86)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 8:47am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/export-3rd-party-online-formats-pro/4587/6 "2020-12-02T08:47:59Z")
> [@rumbrummer](#): > > And that function (GPX export online) is already there → no effort to implement… Development does not work like that, there is huge (my) effort to **maintain** everything. App navigation only uses the kurviger format. App’s focus is not the 3rd party devices. > [@rumbrummer](#): > > Do you plan to implement the Kurviger routing algorithm also offline? Thousands of users use and modify [BRouter profiles](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/app-offline-routing-brouter/649/19) with excellent results. You can add your request with other users to @boldtrn in its related topic: > [@Kurviger offline routing](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/integrate-kurviger-routing-algorithm-into-offline-brouter-graphhopper/3419): > > Robin, Is there a chance we get the same routing behavior in one of the offline routing engines (brouter or graphhopper)? Thanks, Tom ---
**Author:** ![rumbrummer](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/rumbrummer/32/113_2.png) [@rumbrummer](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/rumbrummer)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 10:50am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/export-3rd-party-online-formats-pro/4587/7 "2020-12-02T10:50:03Z")
Ok, I understand - I was not aware of maintenance effort. Concerning implementation of Kurviger routing algorithm offline there was a misunderstanding: I was wondering why you blame the need of internet connection for GPX export although connection is required for use of Kurviger routing algorithm. So I assumed that you might have some plans … Seems I was wrong! I tested the BRouter profiles from @SchlesiM a few weeks ago: An excellent backup solution if no internet connection is available 👍 So I fully agree: There is no need for offline implementation of Kurviger algorithm. But I hope you will keep the Kurviger routing service (online) in the future! ---
**Author:** ![devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/devemux86/32/6239_2.png) [@devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/devemux86)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 11:29am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/export-3rd-party-online-formats-pro/4587/8 "2020-12-02T11:29:56Z")
> [@rumbrummer](#): > > I was wondering why you blame the need of internet connection for GPX export although connection is required for use of Kurviger routing algorithm. That was the tip of the iceberg! @boldtrn agreed to the [opinion](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-routing-profiles/4571/18) to customize the GPX with Kurviger. Then you’ll ask the app too. I respect all opinions, but I value more my development time to maintain everything thrown on app. Website online formats should be separate from app and customized freely. _App doesn’t use them._ And the best navigator is always the one that works without internet: routing, search, import / export. That’s why HERE, OsmAnd, BRouter, GraphHopper (in the past) are considered top offline solutions. ---
**Author:** ![devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/devemux86/32/6239_2.png) [@devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/devemux86)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 3:34pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/export-3rd-party-online-formats-pro/4587/9 "2020-12-02T15:34:02Z")
A post was split to a new topic: [Export Garmin GPX (offline)](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/export-garmin-gpx-offline/4597) ---
**Author:** ![Tom](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/tom/32/168_2.png) [@Tom](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/Tom)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 11:15am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/export-3rd-party-online-formats-pro/4587/10 "2020-12-04T11:15:09Z")
> [@devemux86](#): > > And the best navigator is always the one that works without internet: routing, search, import / export. > That’s why HERE, OsmAnd, BRouter, GraphHopper (in the past) are considered top offline solutions. what does it mean for .kurviger files? Or planning with the app? is then the kurviger algorithm executed offline? ---
**Author:** ![devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/devemux86/32/6239_2.png) [@devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/devemux86)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 12:41pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/export-3rd-party-online-formats-pro/4587/11 "2020-12-04T12:41:28Z")
Export of 3rd party (online) formats remains in Kurviger Pro. ---
**Author:** ![0709](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/0709/32/4699_2.png) [@0709](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/0709)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2020, 10:42am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/export-3rd-party-online-formats-pro/4587/12 "2020-12-07T10:42:30Z")
> [@devemux86](#): > > And the best navigator is always the one that works without internet: routing, search, import / export. > That’s why HERE, OsmAnd, BRouter, GraphHopper (in the past) are considered top offline solutions. Optimizing app Navigation. Location: [Google Maps](https://www.google.be/maps/@51.0619821,3.9481516,3a,75y,281.57h,93.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOp-a23YSaw3qp5_ftyZrXA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) 1. **Kurviger router design**. Successive turns, when the next one is within 40m distance. _Announce also the second turn into the first turn instruction_ - Before First turn: “Turn Right **than Left** ”. (70m) - First Turn passed: “ **Left** ” (Compact as the maneuvre occurs fast!) _When the distance prealerts **are set** at these positions there is a double turn command, but not at the final most important standard last turn command._ [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7Yu70w3E58) Simulate Navigate by next Kurviger router designed file. [rechts\_links by Kurviger.kurviger](https://forum.kurviger.com/uploads/short-url/d5ZTfCPkcUHZzs4VbIS8P9oDI89.kurviger) (800 Bytes) ---
**Author:** ![devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/devemux86/32/6239_2.png) [@devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/devemux86)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2022, 10:58am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/export-3rd-party-online-formats-pro/4587/13 "2022-04-02T10:58:44Z")