# OSM - Kartenfehler

**URL:** <https://forum.kurviger.com/t/osm-kartenfehler/7497>\
**Category:** OSM\
**Created:** [February 6, 2022, 10:40pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/osm-kartenfehler/7497 "2022-02-06T22:40:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![hellsguenni](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/hellsguenni/32/4378_2.png) [@hellsguenni](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/hellsguenni)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/osm-kartenfehler/7497/81 "2024-07-23T18:52:28Z")

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Vermutlich auch ein OSM Fehler: [https://kurv.gr/2b5FD](https://kurv.gr/2b5FD)

 ![image](https://forum.kurviger.com/uploads/default/original/3X/7/d/7d8e606e761221f70f6566893038e225c44cd45a.jpeg)

hier kann man direkt geradeaus fahren, nicht tragisch, wenn man auf Sicht fährt, nur mit Sprachansage wird’s doof.

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**Author:** ![zaphod\_42](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/zaphod_42/32/499_2.png) [@zaphod\_42](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/zaphod_42)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 7:09pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/osm-kartenfehler/7497/82 "2024-07-23T19:09:15Z")

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> [@hellsguenni](#):
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> Vermutlich auch ein OSM Fehler

Nö - denn in BRouter wird einwandfrei geroutet und in Kurviger auch, wenn man “Schnellste” auswählt: [https://kurv.gr/CM2un](https://kurv.gr/CM2un)

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**Author:** ![hellsguenni](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/hellsguenni/32/4378_2.png) [@hellsguenni](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/hellsguenni)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 7:10pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/osm-kartenfehler/7497/83 "2024-07-23T19:10:58Z")

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Danke für die Klärung - ob jetzt ein U-Turn auf einer Landstraße zu einer extra kurvigen Strecke gehören muß, sei mal dahingestellt 😉

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**Author:** ![t00thl355](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/t00thl355/32/27045_2.png) [@t00thl355](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/t00thl355)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/osm-kartenfehler/7497/84 "2024-07-23T20:58:39Z")

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Today I missed a turn and Kurviger rerouted the navigation through a short, very steep and curvy street. This small street (Sjukenusgata), is apparently permanently closed by a concrete block and not by a swing gate. The block is located at the very top of the street aligned with the edge of the Borgundvegen. It could be easily passed by a bicycle or motorcycle, alhough the intention was probably to close it at least for motor vehicles. A car cannot pass the blockade.

How can this be modelled in OSM?

 ![Screenshot_20240724_071218_Kurviger](https://forum.kurviger.com/uploads/default/original/3X/8/a/8a356d5036c55c3a7acd94aeb1110eb7a6ded101.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![t00thl355](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/t00thl355/32/27045_2.png) [@t00thl355](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/t00thl355)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 5:06am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/osm-kartenfehler/7497/85 "2024-07-24T05:06:18Z")

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This is not a legal way to make the right turn from Ålesundsvegen. What needs to be corrected in OSM?

 ![Screenshot_20240724_065755_Kurviger](https://forum.kurviger.com/uploads/default/original/3X/3/7/37a7e342ac68bcd6229845e5a81804b60a60c0fa.jpeg)

[https://kurv.gr/un3LA](https://kurv.gr/un3LA)

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**Author:** ![zaphod\_42](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/zaphod_42/32/499_2.png) [@zaphod\_42](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/zaphod_42)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 5:33am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/osm-kartenfehler/7497/86 "2024-07-24T05:33:05Z")

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You seem a little bored to me. 🤔  
But Alesund is such a beautiful town - go out and see it! 🕶

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**Author:** ![Toffel](https://forum.kurviger.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/9dc877/32.png) [@Toffel](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/Toffel)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 6:01am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/osm-kartenfehler/7497/87 "2024-07-24T06:01:36Z")

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> [@t00thl355](#):
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> What needs to be corrected in OSM?

> [@zaphod\_42](#):
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> You seem a little bored to me. 🤔

🙂 Or this makes just more fun.

You can try to set turn restrictions in openstreetmap. Click a point and follow the wizard.  
If you are unsure, you can try out in your area, or test with one point, wait 3 days and see what happens in Kurviger.

 ![grafik](https://forum.kurviger.com/uploads/default/original/3X/4/5/45641f24e62afd73d4adeccd48f5fb89f785bd30.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![linux-user](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/linux-user/32/56_2.png) [@linux-user](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/linux-user)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 8:22am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/osm-kartenfehler/7497/88 "2024-07-24T08:22:36Z")

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You can add a [barrier](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:barrier) of type [block](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dblock)  
And than maybe [motorcar=no](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:motorcar) or [motor\_vehicle=no](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:motor_vehicle)  
motor\_vehicle includes motorcycles, motorcar applies only for cars.

 ![image](https://forum.kurviger.com/uploads/default/original/3X/d/f/df93ccc3d9dd3c0a5fd03fb03826b433e436915c.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![boldtrn](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/boldtrn/32/360_2.png) [@boldtrn](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/boldtrn)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 9:39am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/osm-kartenfehler/7497/89 "2024-07-24T09:39:04Z")

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> [@linux-user](#):
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> And than maybe [motorcar=no](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:motorcar) or [motor\_vehicle=no](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:motor_vehicle)  
> motor\_vehicle includes motorcycles, motorcar applies only for cars.

In this case I think it really depends on the signs as well (and maybe even the local road rules). In general my assumption would be that if a vehicle fits and if there is no sign forbidding entry, I am allowed to use the road. So if the block is only blocking cars, then it should probably only be motorcar=no.

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**Author:** ![zaphod\_42](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/zaphod_42/32/499_2.png) [@zaphod\_42](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/zaphod_42)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:15pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/osm-kartenfehler/7497/90 "2024-07-24T13:15:34Z")

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I know, how it is done - believe me. But I don’t look after problems with this avoidances:

 ![2024-07-24 08_29_14-Ålesund _ Kurviger](https://forum.kurviger.com/uploads/default/original/3X/e/6/e6b313413129c48f952240e77e724e3a9bc129ae.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Toffel](https://forum.kurviger.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/9dc877/32.png) [@Toffel](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/Toffel)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:32pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/osm-kartenfehler/7497/91 "2024-07-24T13:32:46Z")

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> [@zaphod\_42](#):
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> I know, how it is done - believe me.

I know. With “you” I meant @t00thl355. I understood, he wants to know how it could it be fixed, not that we do it. I am also not a master, it is how I would try it.

The avoidances are perhaps just a test. At least this little route does not change, even when I remove it.

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**Author:** ![zaphod\_42](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/zaphod_42/32/499_2.png) [@zaphod\_42](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/zaphod_42)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:49pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/osm-kartenfehler/7497/92 "2024-07-24T13:49:27Z")

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> [@Toffel](#):
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> does not change, even when I remove it.

 ![image](https://forum.kurviger.com/uploads/default/original/3X/6/3/63ade1df8dfa7d98fb926698bb1e2ee7f5b14f74.jpeg)

OSM seems to be correct - BRouter has no problem …

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**Author:** ![t00thl355](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/t00thl355/32/27045_2.png) [@t00thl355](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/t00thl355)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 2:48pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/osm-kartenfehler/7497/93 "2024-07-24T14:48:45Z")

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> [@zaphod\_42](#):
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> I know, how it is done - believe me. But I don’t look after problems with this avoidances:
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> ![2024-07-24 08_29_14-Ålesund _ Kurviger](https://forum.kurviger.com/uploads/default/original/3X/e/6/e6b313413129c48f952240e77e724e3a9bc129ae.jpeg)

This is a really interesting observation. I surely did not set these avoidances manually - I just tried to recreate the isolated section of the much longer route, where the strange turn occured. I really do not understand how these restrictions appeared, but will try to recreate it (although I updated the app in the meantime, so it might not be possible).

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**Author:** ![Markus\_W](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/markus_w/32/8877_2.png) [@Markus\_W](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/Markus_W)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 9:10am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/osm-kartenfehler/7497/94 "2024-07-29T09:10:27Z")

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Tremalzo darf doch nicht mehr befahren werden, oder? Weiß jemand genau von wo bis wo, dann könnte ich es in OSM editieren.

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**Author:** ![Viola](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/viola/32/12413_2.png) [@Viola](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/Viola)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 9:18am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/osm-kartenfehler/7497/95 "2024-07-29T09:18:40Z")

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@Markus_W

steht hier genau beschrieben:

> **[Tremalzopass](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tremalzopass)**
>
> Höhenprofil Tremalzopass Süd-Nord
>  
> Zum Tremalzopass (italienisch Passo di Tremalzo) führt eine im Ersten Weltkrieg für strategische Zwecke angelegte Bergstraße in Norditalien. Der Pass liegt auf 1664 m s.l.m. an der Grenze zwischen der Autonomen Provinz Trient (Region Trentino-Südtirol) und der Provinz Brescia (Lombardei) unweit des Gardasees. Die Nordflanke liegt im NATURA 2000 Schutzgebiet Monti Tremalzo e Tombea und die Südflanke ist Teil des Naturparks Parco Alto Garda Bresciano.
> Die Passh...

oder hier:

> **[Tremalzo-Pass (Passo di Tremalzo)](https://www.alpenpaesse.de/alpenpaesse/tremalzo-pass-passo-di-tremalzo)**
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> Der Tremalzopass wird gleich von drei gerne angefahrenen Seen umrahmt: Nordöstlich von ihm befindet sich der Lago di Ledro, östlich der Gardasee und auf seiner Westseite der Lago d’Idro. Trotzdem handelt es sich bei ihm um ein erstaunlich wenig...

🤩 😊

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**Author:** ![Markus\_W](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/markus_w/32/8877_2.png) [@Markus\_W](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/Markus_W)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 9:37am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/osm-kartenfehler/7497/96 "2024-07-29T09:37:44Z")

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> [@Viola](#):
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> @Markus_W
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> steht hier genau beschrieben:

Danke habe es angepasst.

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**Author:** ![Guenther](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/guenther/32/17418_2.png) [@Guenther](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/Guenther)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2026, 1:38pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/osm-kartenfehler/7497/97 "2026-06-03T13:38:18Z")

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Schaut bitte einmal hier [https://kurv.gr/LSHPW](https://kurv.gr/LSHPW) zwischen Punkt 2 und 3 routet Kurviger nicht durch, obwohl ich in OSM keine Einschränkung finden konnte. Laut Google darf man da auch durch - findet ihr den Fehler?

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**Author:** ![Kira](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/kira/32/23135_2.png) [@Kira](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/Kira)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2026, 1:45pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/osm-kartenfehler/7497/98 "2026-06-03T13:45:20Z")

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Das war bis vor 3 Stunden noch als “footway” eingetragen scheinbar.

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**Author:** ![Hobbyfahrer](https://forum.kurviger.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Hobbyfahrer](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/Hobbyfahrer)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2026, 1:54pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/osm-kartenfehler/7497/99 "2026-06-03T13:54:54Z")

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… und vor einem Tag hat das jemand auf footway gestellt. Genau das ist das Problem an OSM aber eventuell ist da auch ein dauerhaftes Straßenfest 🙂

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**Author:** ![Viola](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/viola/32/12413_2.png) [@Viola](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/Viola)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2026, 4:59pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/osm-kartenfehler/7497/100 "2026-06-03T16:59:55Z")

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Am Footway liegt es nicht.  
Wenn man in die Karte etwas weiter reinzoomt, dann sieht man auch die Strasse und das der Fussweg direkt daneben verläuft.

Ich kann allerdings nicht erkennen, wo der Fehler liegt. .. ☹

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