Road Error Problem

Hello,

I’m creating some routes in Kurviger (I like to call it Kirby).

Everything is working fine but there is one route where the app is showing some of the roads as being incomplete (???) but they are showing as completely open and paved in Google Maps.

How do I force Kirby to use these roads?

You have several posibilities:

  1. Place one shaping point before and one after the problematic section and connect them with a beeline.
  2. Change OSM data if you know that the road is open. Using Google-Maps as a source for changes in OSM is not allowed. Wait 2-3 days until the changes are synchonized
  3. Same as 2, just share the locations here in forum and ask if someone would make the changes in OSM.
  4. Mark the sections in OSM and ask a question if someone could update the data.

Well I don’t know for sure that the roads are open, but the fact that Google Maps doesn’t see a problem indicates to me that there IS no problem.

Google Maps is usually very accurate compared to OSM which is often out of date.

Then use the first option as a quck fix and bridge the section with a beeline.

Once you have been there nd sen that the rod i finished you can change the OSM data.

You may be right! But fact is that in OSM both sections are defined as “under construction” - since 13 month / 2 years.
Kurviger-Route: https://kurv.gr/4Nqx4
OSM-1: Way History: ‪Blair Road‬ (‪1417620031‬) | OpenStreetMap
OSM-2: Way History: ‪Paine Road‬ (‪1106723850‬) | OpenStreetMap

You were very quick to find that Road!!:blush:

Yeah anytime OSM road construction information is 2 years old, that is indicative of data that is out of date.

You can’t really use a beeline as a bridge over an area that kurviger will not route. I’m using the phone app, not the desktop.

In the phone app, it will still try to route around the area that it detects as a problem.

You can try to check with local authorities.
The road was closed in 2022 due to possible landslide:

I could not find the information if and when it was reopened. Judging by the aerial immages, there appears to be a support structure beside the road, so it was probably fixed (at least south section):

Yes you can, that is the intended purpose of the beeline. It does not matter if you are planning on the phone or in the web browser - you can use beeline in both.

In the kurviger app for my Android phone, I put shaping marks before and after the closure and I didn’t see any way to connect them with the beeline.

In the app you have to tap the symbol on the section between two points to open the menu:

I recommend placing the points on the same side of the obstacle, then change to beeline and then move one point on the other side of the obstacle.

Thank you!

It seems like everyday I’m learning something new about “Kirby” (Kurviger) and its abilities. :blush:

My app doesn’t show the ability to do that directly on the map itself, if the app thinks there’s no Road there.

However, you can definitely make changes directly on the map itself (as you showed in your picture), but only if the app determines that there is a valid road.

Anyway, the way I got it to finally work with making a beeline through the “No Road” sections was pulling it up like this:

1.Click on the via or shaping point you want and then you can see the point before and after that point.

2. Then click beeline or some other curvature setting.

For example, if I want to make a different curvy setting or a beeline setting between points 7 and 8, I just click that little middle section between the two points which is circled in red below.

Exactly. That is even easier then looking for it on the map.

I’m a little embarrassed to say those construction edits on OSM were mine two years ago. I try to keep track of edits like that, so they can be updated when the construction is finished, but apparently I didn’t with those two.

Back when the construction was taking place, I learned of it first hand when I was riding through there. Google Maps and Tom Tom were aware of it at the time, but OSM was not. Google Maps and Tom Tom now show both areas as finished and passable, so I made the updates in OSM. It will be a few days before those edits go live.

Thanks Dennis! I’ve never worked with osm so I have no idea how easy that is to report such things. I just plan my routes for my trips and go.

This area I showed is for a trip next year.

Editing in OSM can be a little daunting at first, but I highly recommend setting up and account and slowly dipping your toes in. There is plenty data on the internet to walk you through small edits, and AI can be helpful with that now too. The more of us that make edits, the better the OSM service is! And the better OSM is, the better Kurviger and other nav apps that use OSM data will be.

I’ve also found that, if an edit seems too complicated, if I just make a comment for review in OSM, there are contributors who know more than me that will fix the issue.

By the time you make your trip next year, my updates to those two areas should be completed. :smiley: