# Website: Export Waypoint Names and Shaping Points **URL:** \ **Category:** Implemented features\ **Created:** [July 3, 2020, 8:24am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706 "2020-07-03T08:24:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/devemux86/32/6239_2.png) [@devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/devemux86)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 12:59pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706/21 "2020-10-24T12:59:30Z")
> [@rumbrummer](#): > > currently the names given to waypoints and kurviger shaping points are completely lost in online GPX export Online export of waypoint names / types is discussed here, so obviously it’s not implemented yet. 🙂 Waypoint names currently are supported in [app’s offline GPX export](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/app-export-gpx-offline-format-with-waypoint-names/2916). > [@rumbrummer](#): > > No - the prefix should be added only to waypoints and kurviger shaping points - turn instructions do not get a prefix. There are turn instructions on waypoints too, so their names should be unmodified. Or else at each import / export there will be added new prefixes (WPx WPx WPx…). It is each app’s responsibility to add custom prefixes in its panels (if they’re needed). ---
**Author:** ![boldtrn](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/boldtrn/32/360_2.png) [@boldtrn](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/boldtrn)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706/22 "2020-10-24T16:24:53Z")
> [@rumbrummer](#): > > Furthermore adding different symbols for this several point types will help on navigation devices which use the symbol tag () of route points and display it on the map. Yes exactly this is the idea. > [@rumbrummer](#): > > I would like to **see the name given to a waypoint or a kurviger shaping point**. This will be added in the future 🙂. > [@rumbrummer](#): > > Therefore I propose to add a hint at the routepoint name for that: For example ‘WP4’ for the 4th waypoint and a ‘FP7’ for the 7th shaping point. So If I have added a 4th Waypoint with the name ‘Lunch’ in kurviger, the name in the GPX would be ‘WP4 Lunch’. This is an interesting idea, maybe the name is not the perfect place for this but maybe we could put it into the `cmt` or `desc` field of the GPX? ---
**Author:** ![rumbrummer](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/rumbrummer/32/113_2.png) [@rumbrummer](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/rumbrummer)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706/23 "2020-10-25T18:49:17Z")
> [@boldtrn](#): > > This is an interesting idea, maybe the name is not the perfect place for this but maybe we could put it into the `cmt` or `desc` field of the GPX? In my Navigator 5 also ‘cmt’ and ‘desc’ of route points are ignored. It seems to use only the name, the coordinates and the point type (in extension: ViaPoint / ShapingPoint ). I guess all newer Garmin devices are doing so - perhaps users of Zumo 59x, Zumo 39x, Zumo XL etc. can give further information here … That was the reason for my proposal to put a hint in the name - it is the only item I can see on device. ---
**Author:** ![0709](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/0709/32/4699_2.png) [@0709](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/0709)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 9:19am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706/24 "2020-10-26T09:19:07Z")
HI Markus. A constant factor in applications with gpx is that there is almost no uniformity in applications. Much of what is possible with the basic gpx standard is unfortunately sometimes not used. Question: Do you mean the Kurviger gpx export direct transfer to your Navigator device? Or the Kurviger output always runs through the converter tool first? The last: If Kurviger gpx clearly indicates both Via or Shape by means of type the tool probably can 100% accurately convert such into the typical “in house” Garmin extension? If Kurviger gpx puts extra info in or cmt or desc, your tool development may be able to convert into the name tag? No? ---
**Author:** ![rumbrummer](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/rumbrummer/32/113_2.png) [@rumbrummer](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/rumbrummer)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 10:38am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706/25 "2020-10-26T10:38:29Z")
Hi Willy, my proposal was for direct use (without converter), I think most people using Kurviger GPX on a Garmin or an other navigation device do not use the converter. You are right: Probably the converter will be able to read the information in the ‘cmt’, ‘desc’ or ‘sym’ also, that is no rocket science (but not yet implemented, of course). Currently you can select a combination of .GPX and .kurviger files to get all information as described in last paragraph in > **[Help GPX shaping](https://gpxshaping.de/GPX/GpxShapingHelp.html#tr_upLoadTrk)** > > Help about converter for GPX files Regards Markus ---
**Author:** ![devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/devemux86/32/6239_2.png) [@devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/devemux86)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 10:58am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706/26 "2020-10-26T10:58:17Z")
The export offers 2 GPX formats: - GPX (should have minimal changes for maximum compatibility with all apps / devices) - Garmin ShapingPoint GPX (probably you mean that?) ---
**Author:** ![rumbrummer](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/rumbrummer/32/113_2.png) [@rumbrummer](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/rumbrummer)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 9:55am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706/27 "2020-10-28T09:55:31Z")
> [@rumbrummer](#): > > I think most people using Kurviger GPX on a Garmin do not use the converter. > [@devemux86](#): > > Garmin ShapingPoint GPX (probably you mean that?) Sorry, my reply lead to misunderstanding → I expanded “Garmin” by “or an other navigation device”. But I think it is a good idea to add type prefix in Garmin ShapingPoint GPX. I do not know how other devices handle ‘sym’, ‘desc’ or ‘comment’ entries - perhaps a TomTom user or a user of an other navigation device can check that. But I am sure that they show the name - so a name prefix will be shown. ---
**Author:** ![boldtrn](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/boldtrn/32/360_2.png) [@boldtrn](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/boldtrn)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 7:41am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706/28 "2020-11-13T07:41:00Z")
This is how it could look like: ![Screenshot from 2020-11-13 08-39-57](https://forum.kurviger.com/uploads/default/original/2X/d/da30eeca5a5d9690573be0963c4848a9d16197f1.png) ---
**Author:** ![0709](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/0709/32/4699_2.png) [@0709](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/0709)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 5:58pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706/29 "2020-11-18T17:58:27Z")
In Garmin Shaping point gpx route export both Start AND Finish by the extension are Via Points. Would propose to indicate identical and uniform or also in the standard gpx export use type Via. By the way…does it hurt to include type tag in Garmin Shaping point route gpx export ? Zumo Tester ? Rumbrummer ? Attached “All in one file”. [All in one.gpx](https://forum.kurviger.com/uploads/short-url/f77QzA3rVfl0xRdCi7h3uX3ijxb.gpx) (7.1 KB) Manual edit: Import Mapsource & Kurviger was both ok. Kurviger: Prefer Shaping & Via by type to be exported by default…= no extra user menu item. ---
**Author:** ![rumbrummer](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/rumbrummer/32/113_2.png) [@rumbrummer](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/rumbrummer)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706/30 "2020-11-18T19:09:56Z")
Hi, I did a fast test on my BMW Navigator 5 (Garmin), language = German: - copied “All in one.gpx” as supplied to folder “SDcard:\Garmin\GPX” of Navigator 5 - start import of route on Navigator 5 -\>success: Route Name is “Garmin Route Shaping Points” 👍 - route is in Belgium, start (green flag), 1 shaping point (blue dot), 1 viapoint (orange flag), destination (chequered flag) 👍 - icons are typical icons for that point types ( I think ‘sym’ and ‘type’ tag are ignored by Navigator 5 ) - Names of route points appear (also destination name ‘Aankomst’, not german 😉 ), also info shaping / via point (but I am quite sure: based on content of ‘extension’ tag) 👍 - - I also imported the track - works 👍 - name of track is “Berlare\_-\_Festivalhal,\_Berlare” - Forgot to take screenshots, track matches the route path on screenshot above (magenta line). I think content of ‘trkpt’ tags is ignored, only coordinates ( ‘lat’ / ‘lon’ attributes ) used. ---
**Author:** ![0709](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/0709/32/4699_2.png) [@0709](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/0709)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 8:38pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706/31 "2020-11-18T20:38:36Z")
Nice ! It seems no negative surprises. Waypoints: Does the Zumo display both (poi) wpt’s ? Track: Normal display so 100% compatible as expected, even with the many extra elements attached. Route: The name tag from gpx base is effectively used in the Via and Shaping Points without negatives by the attached info by type (ignored) so perfect. It seems no cmt nor desc display as you did not mention the family name of James. In picture find what is included in the (rte) route. Tnks for the report. ![The route](https://forum.kurviger.com/uploads/default/original/2X/1/1b63034eda91037aba446ea3230aecb9f9f6b8f8.png) ---
**Author:** ![rumbrummer](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/rumbrummer/32/113_2.png) [@rumbrummer](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/rumbrummer)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706/32 "2020-11-18T21:32:45Z")
> [@0709](#): > > Waypoints: Does the Zumo display both (poi) wpt’s ? I did not import the waypoints - from my point of view importing the route points as waypoints is useless. But I can check if someone is interested - but I do not expect problems caused by a ‘type’ tag. ---
**Author:** ![0709](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/0709/32/4699_2.png) [@0709](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/0709)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 9:35pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706/33 "2020-11-18T21:35:45Z")
> [@rumbrummer](#): > > the route points as waypoints is useless Agree… So the waypoints I added here are informative free located positions. (No duplicates of the rte) ---
**Author:** ![boldtrn](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/boldtrn/32/360_2.png) [@boldtrn](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/boldtrn)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 9:22am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706/34 "2020-11-19T09:22:56Z")
> [@0709](#): > > In Garmin Shaping point gpx route export both Start AND Finish by the extension are Via Points. > Would propose to indicate identical and uniform or also in the standard gpx export use type Via. Sorry I am not sure I understand your comment. What do you mean? ---
**Author:** ![0709](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/0709/32/4699_2.png) [@0709](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/0709)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 9:34am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706/35 "2020-11-19T09:34:46Z")
To make it consistent and simply (KISS) uniform with the Garmin mode ( by extension) Start and Finish indication so by the type Via. (As in the above example picture) In actual (Beta) indicated by type Start and type destination. ---
**Author:** ![devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/devemux86/32/6239_2.png) [@devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/devemux86)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 9:36am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706/36 "2020-11-19T09:36:21Z")
> [@boldtrn](#): > > Sorry I am not sure I understand your comment. What do you mean? In Garmin GPX a “trp:ViaPoint” extension is used in **start** / via points / **destination**. i.e. everywhere except shaping points ---
**Author:** ![rumbrummer](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/rumbrummer/32/113_2.png) [@rumbrummer](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/rumbrummer)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 10:25am UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706/37 "2020-11-19T10:25:21Z")
> [@0709](#): > > So the waypoints I added here are informative free located positions. (No duplicates of the rte) The import works, 2 WPs have been imported. WP “BOM” has an “i” as Icon, so tag ‘sym’ seems to work. WP “Kapel” has the default icon - symbol “church” seems not to exist in N5. Tags ‘cmt’ and ‘desc’ seem to be ignored. ---
**Author:** ![boldtrn](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/boldtrn/32/360_2.png) [@boldtrn](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/boldtrn)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 12:40pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706/38 "2020-11-19T12:40:41Z")
> [@devemux86](#): > > In Garmin GPX a “trp:ViaPoint” extension is used in **start** / via points / **destination**. > i.e. everywhere except shaping points Ok, I don’t mind to change it. Should we? ---
**Author:** ![devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/user_avatar/forum.kurviger.com/devemux86/32/6239_2.png) [@devemux86](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/devemux86)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706/39 "2020-11-26T16:26:10Z")
A post was split to a new topic: [Website: Export routing profiles](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-routing-profiles/4571) ---
**Author:** ![hpsteff](https://forum.kurviger.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/2acd7d/32.png) [@hpsteff](https://forum.kurviger.com/u/hpsteff)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 12:36pm UTC](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706/40 "2021-03-26T12:36:30Z")
I have a Tourer abo as i was hoping to get a seamless workflow from planning the route on the kurviger website and be able to generate a gpx file to export to a Garmin Zümo XT. Export and import works and the waypoints are transferred, but the waypoints do not keep the names that are visible on the website. Any hints? [Previous page](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.kurviger.com/t/website-export-waypoint-names-and-shaping-points/3706.md?page=3)