First trip impressions

[Ajay]

I give the app a B+. The live navigation worked well and the voice commands kept me well-informed as to upcoming turns. But getting the route to display correctly and exporting the turnbook were problematic.

I’m sure that, with appropriate instructions, I could have resolved the route issues but the problems were not always present so either the app is glitchy or I kept making different mistakes. Both are possible. As an example, when selecting a shaping point, sometimes it would create a waypoint and sometimes it wouldn’t. Sometimes it would create a u-turn and sometimes it wouldn’t. Sometimes a waypoint would actually be what is measured on time and miles to go.

This last point was problematic because, when navigating, the time and distance only references the waypoint. Sometimes. Most of the time it referenced entire route, which is what I wanted. However, when loading the route, the entire route distance IS shown until the navigation is displayed. This was quite distracting. And, when approaching that waypoint, there was no direction given in terms of turns or roads.

Exporting the route book was never routine. Sometimes, after showing all of the turns, it wouldn’t allow an export. Sometimes it would not (even if the route was complete and calculated). Sometimes I’d have to go into the route, pick a turn and view it on the route before the Export button would display. Sometimes it would not.

Unrelated to these issues, when searching for hotels, either along the route or in a specific area, the app would not show all of the hotels and some of the displayed hotels were not really there. I had to use Google Maps for a more trustworthy list.

I ended up using Calimoto and then transferring the route to Kurviger to get the kind of roads I wanted. It took a little doing but in the end, I liked the Kurviger display better, which is why I transferred the route to begin with.

Otherwise, I found it very helpful to navigate back roads with lots of turns which allowed me to concentrate on riding and not the technology of the phone.

Thanks.

[linux-user]

@Ajay

the time and distance only references the waypoint.

In navigation time and distance ist shown to next via Point and to end

@Ajay

As an example, when selecting a shaping point, sometimes it would create a waypoint and sometimes it wouldn’t.

Waypoint is the general term.
In Kurviger there are two types:

1. via point (blue) - where you actually want to stop
2. shaping point (black) - just to shape the route, not displayed in navigation

@Ajay

Sometimes it would create a u-turn

Place waypoints away from intersections and other roads!

[Kira]

Hello @Ajay,
Thanks for your feedback.

@Ajay

when selecting a shaping point, sometimes it would create a waypoint and sometimes it wouldn’t

In what situation did that happen? When setting a waypoint, you can decide whether you want a Shaping Point or a Via Point. Have a look at:

• Waypoints in Kurviger
• Placing Waypoints

@Ajay

Sometimes it would create a u-turn and sometimes it wouldn’t

In what situations did this happen? It can happen if a waypoint has been set accordingly.

@Ajay

when navigating, the time and distance only references the waypoint. Sometimes. Most of the time it referenced entire route, which is what I wanted.

I don’t think I can follow you entirely here. The Kurviger navigation shows you ETA/time until and distance to a) the destination and b) the next via point (blue). As you can see here.

Regarding Roadbook Export it’s hard to understand what happened without further details but please have a look at our guide in the Kurviger Knowledge Base for Roadbook Creation.

@Ajay

Sometimes I’d have to go into the route, pick a turn and view it on the route before the Export button would display. Sometimes it would not.

I’ll have a closer look at that.

@Ajay

the app would not show all of the hotels and some of the displayed hotels were not really there.

Of course Google Maps has a much larger database that we probably can’t keep up with. That’s why in Kurviger, when you scroll down on a POI, you always have the option to view the place in Google Maps, so you can check whether it is still up to date and get further information about it.

[Ajay]

Hi Kira,

Thanks for the reply.

Some of these issues were difficult to duplicate, like the waypoints turning into driveways and then creating u-turns in the turn book. I was able to clear those up ahead of time once I figured out what was happening by looking carefully at the turn book. Ultimately, I had to make sure that a shaping point was not at an intersection and then there would be no issues with u-turns.

As for exporting the turn book, I could do it sometimes but not others. Perhaps there is a difference between using the iPad and iPhone but that wasn’t always the case. I found that by looking at different turns and clicking on them to take me to the map, I could return and sometimes the export button would be there..and it would look like this below; it would show the turns but no export button next to the turns.

The shaping point issue was easy to resolve but a bit frustrating.

The issue with time and distance was also inconsistent. It seems to be working now but on my iPhone it tells me I need to upgrade to Tourer+ and I already have. The display does, in fact, show both items as you have highlighted in your picture. Thanks.

Good point on the Google Maps option for the POIs. I should have thought about that.

As for the routing, one of the most significant features of the app is the ability to use shaping points. Most of the time this was easy. There were some times that I thought the app would take the obvious roads after I inserted a shaping point but that didn’t always happen. I’d have to go in and delete previous way points to get the route to follow the roads I’ve selected with the shaping points. At times, the app was slow to respond to this, forcing me to close and reopen the app. My cell service was good. I was always able to edit the app when I reopened it and it started working again.

The voice commands were accurate and important. Well done. The graphics also were good and important. Except for not showing turns after one specific waypoint, it routinely worked well.

The rerouting function did not work so well, When I was intentionally changing the route while driving, I didn’t want to stop and correct the route in the app. It told me to make turns, many times, on upcoming roads but used the same name for the road for 3 miles. (Turn right on Smith Drive…and then turn left on Smith Drive..and then turn right on Smith Drive…etc.) It also would have been helpful to hear a voice annunciation that it was rerouting (similar to Wayz or Google). Eventually, I had to stop and create a new route so this would stop.

I like the app and I’ve used a number of them. This is my favorite but I need to use it more to learn the nuances or figure out how to avoid these minor issues.

Thanks again for your help

Best,

~Andy

[Ajay]

Something I just thought of..

The display for time and distance might have been affected by the use of Apple CarPlay. I was using a Carpuride type of display on the bike and that only showed the information based on the next waypoint and not the entire route. It was, however, like your picture when I loaded the route on the iPhone.

[t00thl355]

@Ajay

The display for time and distance might have been affected by the use of Apple CarPlay.

Keep in mind that Carplay (and Android Auto) are not a simple screen mirroring of what you see on your phone display.
Currently it is not possible to show both information (via-point and final destination) on the Carplay display. This is due to Carplay restrictions, not due to what Kurviger would do (if they were allowed).
Still, you can choose in settings on the carplay display if you want to see info to the next via point or destination. For further information - see here: Kurviger for Apple CarPlay [Kurviger Knowledgebase]

[Kira]

@Ajay

sometimes the export button would be there..and it would look like this below; it would show the turns but no export button next to the turns.

In the Screenshot you are in the Kurviger App. To export the Roadbook, you need to go to the Kurviger Website (Browser).

@Ajay

but on my iPhone it tells me I need to upgrade to Tourer+ and I already have.

Is it possible that you accidentally signed in with Apple on your iPhone or created a second account somehow? Check the email address under “Profile”: is it the same as in the account you logged on your iPad? Please take a look at our help page on this topic here.

@Ajay

There were some times that I thought the app would take the obvious roads after I inserted a shaping point but that didn’t always happen.

The routing follows the Shaping Points, taking into account your curvature and avoidances settings.

@Ajay

but used the same name for the road for 3 miles.

It’s hard to say from here without further information or the actual route, but I would assume the street name must’ve been the same in the Maps. Kurviger only knows what the map data knows.

@Ajay

but I need to use it more to learn the nuances or figure out how to avoid these minor issues.

If you have any questions or problems, please feel free to check out the Kurviger Knowledge Base. You can also ask the chatbot directly.

If you have a specific question, please create a new topic - best to always include the shared route or screenshots so we can better understand what you’re talking about.