Filtering shaping points on/off for various reasons

I know that there is a key “s” to hide shaping points, but I miss a few things about it.

  1. Make it a toggle (instead of a hold)

If I want to post my route in a screenshot to someone, I like the route to look more simple, only showing the stops (my via points). It’s a bit tidious to hold s, while finding my screenshot tools.

  1. Better overview of stops

The route panel on the left still shows all the shaping points, so the listing becomes very large. I would really like to see an overview of my stops instead. I know that there is a “Collapse waypoint list”, but I miss a “Viapoints only” view.

  1. “Stop”-numbering

My via points count in with the shaping points. This can be a little confusing because I would like to have a better overview of my stops - for example 1, 2, 3, and 4. Not stop 5, 16, 29 and 41.

Thanks for any comments, or discussion links that already adressed my thoughts.

I find it fine this way, as somebody might hit the magic key by accident and probably gets crazy to get the waypoints visible again.

My proposal is to install (for example) free software Greenshot (Link). In the settings you can configure a delay from activation to screenshot. I have configured for me 3 seconds - enough time also to open menüs and submenus.


Have you tried this?


Then:

Resulting list:

@Maxx18 wrote a nice suggestion.
You might make comments there (more related to the app). From my point it would be a nice feature request (planned feature), then we could also vote for it. I would.


From my understanding it is just an ascending number. After waypoint 4, the next waypoint is 5 and so on. From planning perspective not even required, but I can see visually against the list what a mess I have done. It is also easier to discuss about a certain point.

Via-Point are big and blue, shaping points smal and black.

When you delete or insert a point, what is your expectation, that “Stop 5” is still “Stop 5”? Perhaps you can describe what is confusing or what could be the advantage.

Hi Thorsten

Thank you very much for your answers. I did not know about the Turn Instructions, this is what I was looking for. Thank you.

About the stops. Here is a route I am planning to suggest to the group I ride with. I managed to make a screenshot without the shaping points, so I am left with the 8 stops. But on the screenshot I sent to my group, the “stops” are now counting strangely, and it is difficult to relate each stop in the turn instructions list, with the location on the map.

Interesting. You want to simplify the information for your group. In case the the via-points are named (as you did) the number is not visible anymore.

Only ideas with additional work.
You could paint the numbers on the screenshot.
You could add - at least tempory - the number in the waypoint name.
You could export the list as roadbook (csv-file) and prepare it for your group.

I guess your point 2 (hide the shaping points) would be a quite good solution. You could add your usecase in above mentioned thread.

Adding the waypoint-numbers to the list of turning instructions would also help.

Perhaps others have better ideas.

I vote for both …

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from my view, this point sounds similar to this here.

I understand, that @JesperK wants to promote the tour, he invested a lot of time. The presentation should be easy to understand. The expected feedback would be surely something like “Wow, I want to start now!”. But as he said, there might be confusion with the numbering of the via-points not in ascending order. Then he gets a feedback like “Nice route, but ..?”.

This is surely not a pure tour-planning issue, but in my imagination, a better presentation will help to onboard the team. This could be helpful for tour-guides, hotels, blogs, perhaps more, if there would be a nice output of a fact sheet with visuals, the important points, some header text and description ..

Perhaps something like exporting the route as CSV (Roadbook), or exporting the Kurviger-File not to gpx, but a powerpoint-template or something like this.

Or even bigger and more outstanding. Ok, i am back on earth, just a little idea. :slight_smile: